The Study of Political Islam


By Jamie Glasov*

Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Bill Warner, the director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI). CSPI’s goal is to teach the doctrine of political Islam through its books and it has produced a series on its focus. Mr. Warner did not write the CSPI series, but he acts as the agent for a group of scholars who are the authors.


FP – Bill Warner, welcome to Frontpage Interview.

Warner – Thank you Jamie for this opportunity.


FP – Tell us a bit about the Center for the Study of Political Islam.

Warner – The Center for the Study of Political Islam is a group of scholars who are devoted to the scientific study of the foundational texts of islam – Koran, Sira (Sirah Rasul Allah or Sirat Nabawiyya – biographies of Mohammed) and Hadith (traditions of Mohammed). There are two areas to study in islam, its doctrine and history, or as CSPI sees it – the theory and its results. We study the history to see the practical or experimental results of the doctrine.

CSPI seems to be the first group to use statistics to study the doctrine. Previous scientific studies of the Koran are primarily devoted to arabic language studies.

Our first principle is that Koran, Sira and Hadith must be taken as a whole. We call them the islamic trilogy to emphasize the unity of the texts.

Our major intellectual breakthrough is to see that dualism is the foundation and key to understanding islam. Everything about islam comes in twos starting with its foundational declaration: (1) there is no god but Allah and (2) Mohammed is His prophet. Therefore, islam is Allah (Koran) and the Sunna (words and deeds of Mohammed found in the Sira and Hadith).

Endless ink has been wasted on trying to answer the question of what is islam? Is islam the religion of peace? Or is the true islam a radical ideology? Is a moderate muslim the real muslim?

This reminds a scientist of the old arguments about light. Is light a particle or is light a wave? The arguments went back and forth. Quantum mechanics gave us the answer. Light is dualistic; it is both a particle and a wave. It depends upon the circumstances as to which quality manifests. Islam functions in the same manner.

Our first clue about the dualism is in the Koran, which is actually two books, the Koran of Mecca (early) and the Koran of Medina (later). The insight into the logic of the Koran comes from the large numbers of contradictions in it. On the surface, islam resolves these contradictions by resorting to “abrogation”. This means that the verse written later supersedes the earlier verse. But in fact, since the Koran is considered by muslims to be the perfect word of Allah, both verses are sacred, legitimete, true and applicable. The later verse is “better”, but the earlier verse cannot be wrong since Allah is perfect. This is the foundation of dualism. Both verses are “right”. Both sides of the contradiction are true in dualistic logic. The circumstances govern which verse is used.

For example:

a) Koran of Mecca – 73:10: Listen to what they [unbelievers] say with patience, and leave them with dignity.

From tolerance we move to the ultimate intolerance, not even the Lord of the Universe can stand the unbelievers.

b) Koran of Medina – 8:12: Then your Lord spoke to His angels and said, “I will be with you. Give strength to the believers. I will send terror into the unbelievers’ hearts, cut off their heads and even the tips of their fingers!”.

All of Western logic is based upon the universal law of contradiction – if two things contradict, then at least one of them is false. But islamic logic is dualistic; two things can contradict each other and both are true.

No dualistic system may be measured by one answer. This is the reason that the arguments about what constitutes the “real” islam go on and on and are never resolved. A single right answer – simpler ou complex – does not exist in dualistic system.

Dualistic systems can only be measured by statistics. It is futile to argue one side of the dualism is true and the other is false. As an analogy, quantum mechanics always gives a statistical answer to all questions.

For an example of using statistics, look at the question: what is the real jihad, the jihad of inner, spiritual struggle or the jihad of war? Let’s turn to Bukhari (the Hadith) for the answer, as he repeatedly speaks of jihad. In Bukhari 97% of the jihad references are about war and 3% are about the inner struggle. So the statistical answer is that jihad is 97% war and 3% inner struggle. Is jihad war? Yes – 97%. Is jihad inner struggle? Yes – 3%. So if you are writing an article, you can make a case for either. But in truth, almost every argument about islam can be answered by: all of the above. Both sides of the duality are right and is applied in agreement the circumstances, the motivations and authors of the actions.


FP - Why, in your view, is there so much ignorance about the history and doctrine of political islam in the West?

Warner – First, let’s see how ignorant we are about the history of political islam. How many christians can tell you how Turkey or Egypt became islamic? What happened to the seven churches of Asia mentioned in Paul’s letters? Find a jew who can tell you the jewish history of dhimmitude (second class citizens who serve and live under “shade abd protection” of the islam). What European knows that white women were the highest priced slaves in Mecca? Everyone knows how many jews Hitler killed, but find an unbeliever who can tell you how many died in jihad over the last 1400 years.

We are just as ignorant about the doctrine of islam. An FBI agent gets two hours of training on islam and most of that is how not to offend the imam. We are fighting in Iraq. Who utilizes the political, military doctrine of islam to plan strategy? Who can find a single rabbi or minister who has read the Koran, Sira and Hadith? What governor, senator, congressmen or military leader displays a knowledge of the political doctrine of islam? Try to find a course available in a college about islamic political doctrine and ethics. Graduates are schooled in islamic art, architecture, poetry, sufism, and a glorious history that ignores the suffering of the innocent unbelievers. Graduates read comments about the Koran and Hadith, but do not read the actual doctrine.


FP – So why this ignorance?

Warner – Let’s start at the beginning. When islam burst out of Arabia into a decaying Byzantine world, the unbelievers recorded it as an arabic invasions. The Eastern Europe was invaded by Turks and Spain and Portugal by Moors. Our scholars were incapable of even naming the invaders.

Mohammed killed every single intellectual or artist who opposed him. It was fear that drove the vast majority of the media not to reprint the Mohammed cartoons in 2005, in an islamic campaign international not some imagined sensitivity. Fear is a fabulous basis for ignorance, but that is not enough to explain it all. What accounts for the almost psychotic aversion to knowledge about islam? Beyond fear is the realization that political islam is profoundly foreign to us.

Let’s examine the ethical basis of our civilization. All of our politics and ethics are based upon a unitary ethic that is best formulated in the Golden Rule: “Treat others as you would be treated”.

The basis of these rule is the recognition that at one level, we are all the same and that “the equality is the foundation of the humanism”. We are not all equal. Any game of sports will show that we do not have equal abilities. But everyone wants to be treated as a human being. In particular, we all work and want to be equal under the law and be treated as social equals. We create and are perfecting the democracy, ended slavery, treat women and men as political equals, separate church of state, make education priority and even compulsory in the first levels… So the Golden Rule is a unitary ethic. All people are to be treated the same. All religions have some version of the Golden Rule except islam.


FP - So how is islam different in this context?

Warner - The term “human being” has no meaning inside of islam. There is no such thing as humanity, only the duality of the believer and unbeliever. Look at the ethical statements found in the Hadith. A muslim should not lie, cheat, kill or steal from other muslims. But a muslim may lie, deceive or kill an unbeliever if it advances islam.

There is no such thing as a ‘universal statement of ethics’ in islam. Muslims are to be treated one way and unbelievers another way. The closest islam comes to a universal statement of ethics is that the entire world must submit to islam. After Mohammed became a prophet, he never treated an unbeliever the same as a muslim. Islam denies the truth of the Golden Rule.

By the way, this dualistic ethic is the basis for jihad. The ethical system sets up the unbeliever as less than human and therefore, it is easy to kill, harm or deceive the unbeliever.

There have been other dualistic cultures. The KKK comes to mind. But the KKK is a simplistic dualism. The KKK member hates all black people at all times; there is only one choice. This is very straightforward and easy to see.

The dualism of islam is more deceitful and offers two choices on how to treat the unbeliever. The unbeliever can be treated nicely, in the same way a farmer treats his cattle well. So islam can be “nice”, but in no case is the unbeliever a “brother” or a friend. In fact, there are some 14 verses of the Koran that are emphatic – a muslim is never a friend to the unbeliever. A muslim may be “friendly,” but he is never an actual friend. And the degree to which a muslim is actually a true friend is the degree to which he is not a muslim, but a hypocrite.


FP – You mentioned earlier how logic is another point of profound difference. Can you touch on that?

Warner – To reiterate, all of science is based upon the law of contradiction. If two things contradict each other, then at least one of them has to be false. But inside of islamic logic, two contradictory statements can both be true. Islam uses dualistic logic and we use unitary scientific logic.

Since islam has a dualistic logic and dualistic ethics, it is completely foreign to us. Muslims think differently from us and feel differently from us. So our aversion is based upon fear and a rejection of islamic ethics and logic. This aversion causes us to avoid learning about islam so we are ignorant and stay ignorant.

Another part of the aversion is the realization that there is no compromise with dualistic ethics. There is no halfway place between unitary ethics and dualistic ethics. If you are in a business deal with someone who is a liar and a cheat, there is no way to avoid getting cheated. No matter how nice you are to a con man, he will take advantage of you. There is no compromise with dualistic ethics. In short, islamic politics, ethics and logic cannot be part of our civilization. Islam does not assimilate, it dominates. There is never any “getting along” with islam. Its demands never cease and the demands must be met on islam’s terms: submission.

The last reason for our aversion to the history of political islam is our shame. Islam put over a million Europeans into slavery. Since muslims can’t be enslaved, it was a white christian who was the Turkish sultan’s sex slave. These are things that we do not want to face.

Jews don’t want to acknowledge the history of political islam, because they were dhimmis, second class citizens or semi-slaves, just like the christians. jews like to recall how they were advisors and physicians to powerful muslims, but no matter what the jew did or what position he held, he was still a dhimmi. There is no compromise between being equal and being a dhimmi.

Why should a hindu want to recall the shame of slavery and the destruction of their temples and cities? After hindu craftsmen built the Taj Mahal, the muslim ruler had their right hands cut off so that they could not build anything as beautiful for anyone else. The practice of suttee, the widow throwing herself on the husband’s funeral pyre, came about as a response to the rape and brutality of the islamic jihad as it sweep over ancient hindustan.

Blacks don’t want to face the fact that it was a muslim who rounded up their ancestors in Africa to wholesale to the white slave trader. The arab is the true master of the african. Blacks can’t accept the common bond they share with whites: that both Europeans and Africans were slaves under islam. Blacks like to imagine islam is their counterweight to white power, not that islam has ruled them for 1400 years.

Dualistic logic. Dualistic ethics. Fear. Shame. There is no compromise. These are the reasons we don’t want to know about islam’s political history, doctrine or ethics.


FP - So is there such a thing as non-political islam?

Warner - Non-political islam is religious islam. Religious islam is what a muslim does to avoid hell and go to paradise. These are the five pillars –  “prayer, charity to muslims, pilgrimage to Mecca, fasting and declaring Mohammed to be the final prophet”.

But the trilogy is clear about the doctrine. At least 75% of the Sira (life of Mohammed) is about jihad. About 67% of the Koran written in Mecca is about the unbelievers, or politics. Of the Koran of Medina, 51% is devoted to the unbelievers. About 20% of Bukhari’s Hadith is about jihad and politics. Religion is the smallest part of islamic foundational texts.

Political islam’s most famous duality is the division of the world into believers – Dar al Islam – and unbelievers – Dar al Harb. The largest part of the trilogy relates to treatment of the unbelievers – kafirs. Even hell is political. There are 146 references to hell in the Koran. Only 6% of those in hell are there for moral failings, murder, theft, etc. The other 94% of the reasons for being in hell are for the intellectual sin of disagreeing with Mohammed, a political crime. Hence, islamic hell is a political prison for those who speak against islam.

Mohammed preached his religion for 13 years and garnered only 150 followers. But when he turned to politics and war, in 10 years time he became the first ruler of Arabia by averaging an event of violence every 7 weeks for 9 years. His success did not come as a religious leader, but as a political leader.

In short, political islam defines how the unbelievers are to be dealt with and treated.


FP - Can you touch briefly on the history of political islam?

Warner - The history of political islam starts with Mohammed’s migration to Medina – Hijra. From that point on, islam’s appeal to the world has always had the dualistic option of joining a glorious religion or being the subject of political pressure and violence. After the migration to Medina, islam became violent when persuasion failed. Jihad entered the world.

After Mohammed’s death, Abu Bakr, the second caliph, settled the theological arguments of those who wished to leave islam with the political action of death by the sword. The jihad of Umar (the second caliph, a pope-king) exploded into the world of the unbelievers. Jihad destroyed a christian Middle East and a christian North Africa. Soon it was the fate of the persian zoroastrian and the hindu to be the victims of jihad. The history of political islam is the destruction of christianity in the Middle East, Egypt, Turkey and North Africa. Half of christianity was lost. Before islam, North Africa was the southern part of Europe (part of the Roman Empire). Around 60 million christians were slaughtered during the jihadic conquest.

Half of the glorious hindu civilization was annihilated and 80 million hindus killed.

The first Western buddhists were the greeks descended from Alexander the great’s army in what is now Afghanistan. Jihad destroyed all of buddhism along the silk route. About 10 million buddhists died. The conquest of buddhism is the practical result of pacifism.

The jews became permanent dhimmis throughout islam.

In Africa over 120 million christians and animists have died over the last 1400 years of jihad.

Approximately 270 million nonbelievers died over the last 1400 years for the glory of political islam. These are the tears of Jihad which are not taught in any school.


FP - How have our intellectuals responded to islam?

Warner - The basis of all the unbeliever’s thought has collapsed in the face of islamic political thought, ethics and logic. We have already mentioned how our first intellectuals could not even name the invaders as muslims. We have no method of analysis of islam. We can’t agree on what islam is and have no knowledge about our suffering as the victims of a 1400-year jihad.

Look at how christians, jews, blacks, intellectuals and artists have dealt with islamic doctrine and history. In every case their primary ideas fail.

Christians believe that “love conquers all.” Well, love does not conquer islam. Christians have a difficult time seeing islam as a political doctrine, not a religion. The sectarian nature of christian thought means that the average non-orthodox christian has no knowledge or sympathy about the orthodox christian’s suffering.

Jews have a theology that posits a unique relationship between jews and the creator-god of the universe. But islam sees the jews as apes who corrupted the Old Testament. Jews see no connection between islam’s political doctrine and Israel.

Black intellectuals have based their ideas on the slave/victim status and how wrong it was for white christians to make them slaves. Islam has never acknowledged any of the pain and suffering it has caused in Africa with its 1400-year-old slave trade. But blacks make no attempt to get an apology from muslims and are silent in the presence of islam. Why? Is it because arabs are their masters?

Multiculturalism is bankrupt against islam’s demand for every civilization to submit. The culture of tolerance collapses in the face of the sacred intolerance of dualistic ethics. Intellectuals respond by ignoring the failure.

Our intellectuals and artists have been abused for 1400 years. Indeed, the psychology of our intellectuals is exactly like the psychology of the abused wife, the sexually abused child or rape victim. Look at the parallels between the response of abuse victims and our intellectuals. See how violence has caused denial.

The victims deny that the abuse took place: Our media never reports the majority of jihad around the world. Our intellectuals don’t talk about how all of the violence is connected to a political doctrine.

The abuser uses fear to control the victim: What was the reason that newspapers would not publish the Mohammed cartoon? Salman Rushdie still has a death sentence for his novel – The Satanic Verses. What “cutting edge” artist creates any artistic statement about islam? Fear rules our intellectuals and artists.

The victims find ways to blame themselves: We are to blame for the attacks on September 11, 2001. If we try harder muslims will act nicer. We have to accommodate their needs.

The victim is humiliated: White people will not talk about how their ancestors were enslaved by islam. No one wants to claim the victims of jihad. Why won’t we claim the suffering of our ancestors? Why don’t we cry about the loss of cultures and peoples? We are too ashamed to care.

The victim feels helpless: “What are we going to do?” “We can’t kill 1.3 billion people.” No one has any understanding or optimism. No one has an idea of what to try. The only plan is to “be politically correct.”

The victim turns the anger inward: What is the most divisive issue in today’s politics? Iraq. And what is Iraq really about? Political islam. The Web has a video about how the CIA and Bush planned and executed September 11. Cultural self-loathing is the watchword of our intellectuals and artists.

We hate ourselves because we are mentally molested and abused. Our intellectuals and artists have responded to the abuse of jihad just as a sexually abused child or a rape victim of theft who are silenced. We are quite intellectually ill and are failing at our job of clear thinking. We can’t look at our negative side.


FP - So summarize for us why it is so crucial for us to learn the doctrine of political islam.

Warner - Political islam has annihilated every culture it has invaded or migrated to. The total time for annihilation takes centuries, but once islam is ascendant it never fails. The host culture disappears and becomes extinct.

We must learn the doctrine of political islam to survive. The doctrine is very clear that all forms of force and persuasion may and must be used to conquer us. Islam is a self-declared enemy of all unbelievers. The brilliant chinese philosopher of war, Sun Tsu, had the dictum – know the enemy. We must know the doctrine of our enemy or be annihilated.

Or put another way: if we do not learn the doctrine of political islam, our civilization will be annihilated just as Egypt’s Coptic civilization was annihilated.

Since unbelievers must know the doctrine of political islam to survive, CSPI has written all of its books in simple English. Our books are scholarly, but easy to read. As an example, anyone who can read a newspaper can pick up A Simple Koran and read and understand it. It is not “dumbed down” and contains every single word of the original.

Not only is the language simple, but logic has been used to sort and categorize. Context and chronology have been restored. The result is a Koran that is an epic story ending in triumph over all enemies of Allah. All of our books and philosophy may be found at our center’s website.

Islam declares that we are the enemies of Allah. If we do not learn the political doctrine of islam we will end up just like the first victims of islam  – the tolerant, polytheist Arabs of Saudi Arabia who became the Wahabbis (a very strict branch of islam) of today, the most intolerant culture on the face of the earth.


FP - Bill Warner, thank you for joining us today.

Warner - Jamie, thank you for your kindness and efforts.


* Jamie Glazov is Frontpage Magazine’s managing editor. He holds a Ph.D. in History with a specialty in U.S. and Canadian foreign policy. He edited and wrote the introduction to David Horowitz’s Left Illusions. He is also the co-editor (with David Horowitz) of The Hate America Left and the author of Canadian Policy Toward Khrushchev’s Soviet Union (McGill-Queens University Press, 2002) and 15 Tips on How to be a Good Leftist. To see his previous symposiums, interviews and articles Click Here.


Source

1. Frontpage MagazineAdmin on Nov 8, 2007 in Politics

2. Sociel Daily News – Islam: 270 Million Bodies in 1400 Years

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  2. Buzz says:

    What a hack. Bill Warner is an unschooled private dick in sarasota, fl and knows no more about Islam than any sock puppet of the neocon ilk. Hatred, fear, paranoia and lies are their stock in trade.

    Reprinting his ridiculous Study of Political Islam and the unnamed “scholars” that he represents only brands you and your blog as a sympathizer of lies and deceit.

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    You are a weakminded person reprinting and representing weakness.

    I laugh at people like you. You act like flies attracted to piles of shit and calling it truth.
    You deceive no one. Deep down, not even your self. You know you are a liar and a recepticle for lies.

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  4. Bill Warner says:

    Comment by Buzz — November 29, 2008 @ 5:00 am, Bill Warner is an unschooled private dick in sarasota, fl.

    Mr. Buzz,

    You sir are an uneducated moron, there are more than “one” Bill Warner in this tiny worid of ours, the Bill Warner in the above article is the Director of the “Center for the Study of Political Islam” (CSPI)and he does not live in Sarasota Fl.

    Mr. Buzz-off, I am the Bill Warner who lives in Sarasota Fl and I am a licensed private investigator for the State of Florida and have been for the last 15 years. My interest is also in Islam and Muslim terrorists but I take a different approach and get them arrested. I have had 6 Moroccan Nationals arrested and deported in the Tampa area, who linked to the support of terrorism, in the past 4 years.

    Mr Buzz-off, I, (the Bill Warner in Sarasota, you moron) also have taken a direct approach in shutting down Islamic websites that link directly to al-Qaeda and are, or had been, hosted in the USA, see FOXNEWS.COM U.S. “Cyber Vigilantes Track Extremist Web Sites” and see the Tampa Tribune article “Investigator Links 3rd Jihadist Web Site To Tampa Host” and about 6 others news articles about Jihad websites shut down by Bill Warner Sarasota Private Investigator in Boston, Charlotte and Vancouver Wa.

    Mr. buzz-off, you really are stupid.

    Bill Warner
    Private Investigator
    WBI Inc private Detective Agency
    Sarasota Fl
    http://www.wbipi.com

  5. Bill Warner says:

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    Mr. Buzz-off you moron,

    The Bill Warner in the story above, the director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI) is located in Nashville TN, not Sarasota Fl, see their mailing address below.

    CSPI
    2817 West End Ave.
    Suite 126-441
    Nashville, TN 37203
    USA

    Mr. Buzz-off you moron, next time do a little research, you jackass, before you make such ignorant statements.

    Bill Warner
    Private Investigator
    WBI Inc private Detective Agency
    Sarasota Fl
    http://www.wbipi.com

  6. Bill Warner says:

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    Mr. Buzz-off, you moron, “Following news article is what I do”
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    Private Investigator
    Sarasota Fl

    “Pro Al-Qaeda Web site Run by a Charlotte Man….Controversial Web Site”
    http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?s=8712146

    WBTV is investigating a 22-year old running a pro-Al-Qaeda website out of his parent’s home in north Charlotte. Image, after graphic image… all act as a cheerleader for Jihad, with the bloody violence always at the expense of Americans.

    “It’s not a game,” says WBTV Anchor Molly Grantham who is working these reports. “It’s not about some kid ‘cutting and pasting’ stuff to a random blog. The site is so popular it’s reportedly listed among the top one percent of one hundred Internet sites in the world.”

    Some cyberterrorism experts are publicly wondering, even asking Capitol Hill, just how connected is this 22-year old Charlottean to the war on terrorism? Grantham tracked him, and asked him directly.

    Inside a typical-looking north Charlotte home, lives a 22-year old Saudi American with some extreme ideas. He runs a controversial anti-American website called revolution.muslimpad.com. Some experts describe it as a “call to Jihad.” The site lists Samir Khan as one poster.

    All indications are he runs the whole thing. His family reportedly moved him to the U-S when he was seven years old. If you read his words and click on attached links, you’ll see bomb videos.

    September 11th is replayed. There’s a call to arms. One video shows a dead American hanging out the back of a Jeep. Another link – another especially disturbing link – is a music video of children training in a terrorist-type camp.

    The American government is aware of this website. In fact, sites like Khan’s are the focus of a 23-page report released just weeks ago on Capitol Hill. WBTV obtained a copy.

    The report repeatedly warns of the dangers. Like the following one line: “Over the last year, Al-Qaeda also made a tactical decision to increase its production of online propaganda and make more of it accessible to English-speaking audiences.”

    Private investigator Bill Warner is in Florida studying Jihad-ist websites across the world. WBTV traveled to Sarasota (Note here Mr Buzz-off, they came to see me) to interview him because he says Charlotteans need to recognize someone in their backyard is helping the enemy.

    “His website is concise. Easy to read. Informative. If you want to be a terrorist, this is where you go,” says Warner. “He’s a great facilitator for Al-Qaeda.” Is he? Is Khan working for Islamic extremists?

    Asking him isn’t easy.We knock.We leave notes. We even see a national news crew from FoxNews.com stake out his neighborhood looking for an interview. He ignored them, too.

    We finally catch Khan walking into work in south Charlotte, a week-and-a-half-ago. “…May I talk with you about your website?”, asks Grantham.”Uh, no,” says Khan. She continues. “Are you helping recruit for Al Qaeda?”.

    “No,” he replies. “Not at all?” “No,” he repeats. “Helping recruit for terrorism?” she asks. “No,” he says. He says he’s not… Warner doesn’t believe him. “Oh, come on!,” says the private investigator. “It’s a war zone here… these people want to kill us.”

    Warner says the best solution is to try and shut down Khan’s site – and ones like it.
    Warner has helped do this in other cases before. But he says Khan’s web host — muslimpad.com — isn’t going anywhere.

    “The muslimpad.com is hosted out of Ahman, Jordan… so forget that,” says Warner. “You’re not going to shut it down.” It is Khan’s First Amendment right to express his views. He knows how to walk the fine line well. He never solicits violence.

    He doesn’t show evidence of working directly with militant leaders. He just says what he wants through a keyboard and monitor. Not, apparently, in person.

    “Samir, are you anti-American?” asks Grantham. He doesn’t respond.

    “You seem to have a lot to say. I’m giving you a chance here to say some things,” she follows.
    He says nothing and uses his security card to beep himself into work. Tuesday night at 11, WBTV will air a second part to this investigation.

    We’ve uncovered some information about Khan’s former job. Where he worked could end up being of national concern. The FBI will neither “confirm nor deny if they are investigating” Khan or his website.

    Bill Warner
    Private Investigator
    WBI Inc private Detective Agency
    Sarasota Fl
    http://www.wbipi.com

  7. Bill Warner says:

    Comment by Buzz — November 29, 2008 @ 5:00 am, Bill Warner is an unschooled private dick in sarasota, fl.

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    Bill Warner
    Private Investigator
    Sarasota Fl

    “Investigator Links 3rd Jihadist Web Site To Tampa Host”. By HOWARD ALTMAN, The Tampa Tribune
    http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/feb/22/212323/me-investigator-links-3rd-jihadist-web-site-to-tam/

    Tampa continues to be the focus of an international game of Internet whack-a-mole between jihadists who put up Web sites and organizations and individuals who try to shut them down.

    For the third time in a month, Sarasota-based private investigator Bill Warner has tracked to a Tampa hosting company what investigators call a significant Web site used by jihadists for communications, recruitment and fundraising. The company is based in the same building as the U.S. attorney’s office.

    The site, http://www.alekhlaas.info, appears to show images of mujahedeen firing on U.S. troops in Afghanistan, among other images. The Web site was hosted by Noc4Hosts Inc. until it was taken down this month after a call from The Tampa Tribune.

    Warner, who says he tracks jihadists online to disrupt their activities, says he noticed today that the site once again is being hosted by Noc4Hosts.

    Previous incarnations of the Web site have contained programs to give jihadists more secure communications capabilities.

    This week, another site considered to be a key conduit for jihadists was taken down by Noc4Hosts after a call from the Tribune. That site, http://www.alhesbah.net/v/, is considered the principal and largest jihadist forum of supporters of al-Qaida and global jihad and the oldest, said Reuven Paz, director of the Jerusalem-based Project for the Research of Islamist Movements.

    That site remains offline. Warner says he goes after these sites, with the help of organizations such as the Middle East Media Research Institute, because “the propaganda war is being fought by al-Qaida and its affiliates on the Internet, and the USA hasn’t even stepped onto the court.”

    “Web sites such as http://www.alekhlaas.info provide inspiration and technical advice for would-be terrorists all over the world,” Warner said.

    Noc4Hosts Inc. general manager Steven Eschweiler could not immediately be reached for comment.

    In the past, he has said he takes down sites as soon as he is informed about them.

    Last month he said Noc4Hosts “is not in cahoots with al-Qaida.”

    He said a site that his company took down “was one of several hundred thousand the company hosts.”

    Web-hosting companies keep banks of computer servers where individual Web sites are based.

    “If there is anything anti-American, we will take them down,” Eschweiler said last month. “We work closely with authorities any time something like this comes up.”

    Editor Howard Altman can be reached at 813-259-7629 or haltman@tampatrib.com.

    Bill Warner
    Private Investigator
    WBI Inc private Detective Agency
    Sarasota Fl
    http://www.wbipi.com

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    Private Investigator
    Sarasota Fl

    “Investigator Links 3rd Jihadist Web Site To Tampa Host”, By HOWARD ALTMAN, The Tampa Tribune
    http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/feb/22/212323/me-investigator-links-3rd-jihadist-web-site-to-tam/

    Tampa continues to be the focus of an international game of Internet whack-a-mole between jihadists who put up Web sites and organizations and individuals who try to shut them down.

    For the third time in a month, Sarasota-based private investigator Bill Warner has tracked to a Tampa hosting company what investigators call a significant Web site used by jihadists for communications, recruitment and fundraising. The company is based in the same building as the U.S. attorney’s office.

    The site, http://www.alekhlaas.info, appears to show images of mujahedeen firing on U.S. troops in Afghanistan, among other images. The Web site was hosted by Noc4Hosts Inc. until it was taken down this month after a call from The Tampa Tribune.

    Warner, who says he tracks jihadists online to disrupt their activities, says he noticed today that the site once again is being hosted by Noc4Hosts.

    Previous incarnations of the Web site have contained programs to give jihadists more secure communications capabilities.

    This week, another site considered to be a key conduit for jihadists was taken down by Noc4Hosts after a call from the Tribune. That site, http://www.alhesbah.net/v/, is considered the principal and largest jihadist forum of supporters of al-Qaida and global jihad and the oldest, said Reuven Paz, director of the Jerusalem-based Project for the Research of Islamist Movements.

    That site remains offline.

    Warner says he goes after these sites, with the help of organizations such as the Middle East Media Research Institute, because “the propaganda war is being fought by al-Qaida and its affiliates on the Internet, and the USA hasn’t even stepped onto the court.”

    “Web sites such as www .alekhlaas.info provide inspiration and technical advice for would-be terrorists all over the world,” Warner said.

    Noc4Hosts Inc. general manager Steven Eschweiler could not immediately be reached for comment.

    In the past, he has said he takes down sites as soon as he is informed about them.

    Last month he said Noc4Hosts “is not in cahoots with al-Qaida.”

    He said a site that his company took down “was one of several hundred thousand the company hosts.”

    Web-hosting companies keep banks of computer servers where individual Web sites are based.

    “If there is anything anti-American, we will take them down,” Eschweiler said last month. “We work closely with authorities any time something like this comes up.”

    Editor Howard Altman can be reached at 813-259-7629 or haltman@tampatrib.com.

    Bill Warner
    Private Investigator
    WBI Inc private Detective Agency
    Sarasota Fl
    http://www.wbipi.com

  9. Bill Warner says:

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    Private Investigator
    Sarasota Fl

    From Times Online August 22/08; http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4592445.ece

    Three Muslim men questioned over threat to assassinate Gordon Brown.
    The death threats by the 3 Muslim men appeared on the http://www.al-ekhlaas.com/ terror website Jan 24th 2008. The same terror website was shut down in Tampa Fl on Jan 28th 2008 by the Tampa Tribune and Private Investigator Bill Warner.

    The terror website is currently active at http://www.alekhlaas.info/forum/ a translated version of the Arabic terror site can be seen here. Three Muslim men arrested under terrorism legislation are being questioned over internet threats to kill Gordon Brown and the former Prime Minister Tony Blair on this website.

    One of the men being questioned by police in Manchester is suspected of posting a death threat on a recognised jihadi website and styling himself Sheikh Umar Rabie al-Khalaila, leader of al-Qaeda in Britain. The message, written in English, appeared only briefly on January 24th, 2008.

    The website http://www.al-ekhlaas.com/ was shut down in Tampa Fl, USA on Jan 28th, 2008 four days after the terror threat appeared. The three arrested are British-born Muslims of Asian origin (Pakistani).

    The threats appeared on the http://www.al-ekhlaas.com/ website, which has been used by al-Qaeda and is monitored by intelligence agencies, in January. They warned of a wave of suicide attacks in Britain and against British interests around the world unless the group’s demands for a withdrawal from Iraq and the release of Muslim prisoners were met.

    Detectives have been investigating the background to the posting and arrested three men last week in an operation run by Greater Manchester Police’s counter-terrorism unit. The three detainees are aged 21, 22 and 23 and all come from Blackburn, Lancashire, where extensive searches have been carried out.

    One man was detained in the Accrington area and the other two were arrested at at Manchester airport before they could board a flight to the Finnish capital, Helsinki. The Times understands that British police are concerned about the potential link to militants in Scandinavia and travelled to Finland earlier this week to carry out further inquiries.

    The internet threats were reported by The Times earlier this year and the full text of the posting, which originally appeared in Arabic, has since been obtained. It was headed: “Statement of the Leader of al-Qaeda in Britain, Sheikh Umar Rabie al-Khalaila” and began by offering “a truce to the British government”.

    The author of the document demanded “a complete withdrawal of the British troops from Afghanistan and Iraq” and the release of “all Muslim captives from Belmarsh prison”.

    It specifically named the extremist clerics Abu Qatada and Abu Hamza al-Masri as two inmates who should be freed. The courts have since ordered the release on bail of Abu Qatada who is now living under a 22-hour curfew in west London.

    The statement then added: “If the British government fails to respond to our demands by the last day of March 2008 as they fail to answer to the truce of our Sheikh Osama bin Laden… then the Martyrdom seekers of the organisation of al-Qaeda in Britain will target all the political leaders especially Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, and we will also target all Embassies, Crusaders Centres and their Interests through out the country, with the help of Allah.”

    The author then signed off: “Finally, all praise is to Allah. Umar Rabie al-Khalaila. The leader of Al-Qaeda in Britain.”

    TAMPA; Local Firm Removes Jihadi Web Site http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/jan/28/290012/tampa-company-hosted-key-al-qaeda-web-site/ By HOWARD ALTMAN The Tampa Tribune Published: January 28, 2008. A Tampa Web-hosting company has taken down a Web site used by al-Qaida for communicating in secret and hiding files from investigators.

    The company, Noc4Hosts, took the action Monday after it was informed about the site by The Tampa Tribune. Noc4Hosts, at 400 N. Tampa St., is in an office building that also rents space to the Tampa district of the U.S. attorney’s office.The Web site http://www.al-ekhlass.com/ includes a graphic interface program that is of special interest to those who monitor jihadi activity.

    Known as “Mujahideen Secrets 2,” it allows for encryption of messages and files. Steve Eschweiler said he took down the site, which was at http://www.alekhlaas/ .info/forum , after a call from the Tribune.

    He would not say whether he has been contacted by investigators about the site. “If it is not immediately taken down, there is a reason for that, but I can’t really say anything more than that without disclosing information,” Eschweiler said. “Read between the lines. We are as American as anyone.”

    Mujahideen Secrets 2 is the second generation of a graphical user interface that is as simple to use as Windows, said Paul Henry of Ocala, an Internet security specialist who first discovered the program. Law enforcement has taken a great interest in the program, he said.

    “It was understood that law enforcement cracked the code for the original version of this program and were able to read e-mails and, just as importantly, stored files,” Henry said. “Now, with this new program, where they corrected the deficiencies, it makes it more difficult for law enforcement.”

    The Web site http://www.alekhlass.com/ , he said, is extremely popular. “When I looked at it, it had a counter that said it has had 17 million visits.” The U.S. attorney’s office would not comment on the site, the encryption program or whether an investigation is under way.

    The Web site often used by al-Qaida is of great concern, according to A. Aaron Weisburd, who runs the Internet Haganah, a Web site dedicated to hunting and disrupting jihadi Internet communications.

    Intelligence investigators describe the site as “arguably the single most important al-Qaida Web site currently in operation,” Weisburd says. The site was registered on January 22, 2006, by a man named Peterson Hoffman in Amman, Jordan.

    Though Eschweiler shut down the Web site, the information is still available online. Another version, with a different Web address, is being hosted by a company in Phoenix (that site was shut down on Feb 2nd 2008 by the Arizona Republic newspaper and Private Investigator Bill Warner see story click here http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/019805.php

    Bill Warner
    Private Investigator
    WBI Inc private Detective Agency
    Sarasota Fl
    http://www.wbipi.com

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    Please visit http://insanepi.blogspot.com/ before using Bill Warner as a source.

    Khalim Massoud
    President
    Muslims Against Sharia

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